Paris Peace Conf. 180.03401/80

CF–80

Notes of a Meeting Held at President Wilson’s House in the Place des Etats-Unis, Paris, on Saturday, June 21, 1919, at 6 p.m.

  • Present
    • United States of America
      • President Wilson
    • British Empire
      • The Rt. Hon. A. J. Balfour, O. M., M. P.
      • Lord Sumner.
    • France
      • M. Clemenceau.
      • M. Klotz.
      • M. Loucheur.
      • M. Jouasset
    • Italy
      • M. Sonnino.
    • Japan
      • Baron Makino.
Sir Maurice Hankey, K. C. B. } Secretaries.
M. di Martino
Prof. P. J. Mantoux—Interpreter.

The whole of the Drafting Committee were also present.

1. With reference to C. F. 76, Minute 5,1 the Council had before them the draft reply to the German Note, prepared by the Drafting Reply to the Committee, together with the Protocol to be attached to that Note. (Appendix I.) Reply to the German Note

Baron Makino raised the question as to whether the Japanese Government would be represented on the Reparations Commission when questions relating to the German railways and mines in Shantung were under consideration.

After some discussion, M. Loucheur suggested that, as this was a matter affecting the Allied and Associated Powers only and not the enemy, an understanding should be reached that, whenever this question was raised at the Reparation Commission, the Japanese Government should be represented.

Baron Makino said he would be satisfied if this was understood.

(It was agreed that, whenever the Reparations Commission discussed the question of the German railways and mines in Shantung, the Japanese Government should have a representative on the Commission.)

(The letter prepared by the Drafting Committee was approved and M. Clemenceau undertook to sign and communicate it immediately, on behalf of the Allied and Associated Powers, to the German Delegation.)

Villa Majestic, Paris, 21 June, 1919.

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Appendix I to CF–80

WCP–1033A

Reply to the German Note of June 20th, 1919

(Approved by the Council of the Principal Allied and Associated Powers on June 21st, 1919)

By your note of the 20th instant2 you brought to the attention of the Allied and Associated Governments certain points on which in the opinion of the German Delegation a divergence existed between the text of the Treaty and the Memorandum sent to you on June 16th,3 1919, in answer to the German observations.

I have the honour to inform you that the views of the Allied and Associated Governments on these various points are as follows:—

(1) The statements made in the memorandum on page 74 on the one hand and on pages 42 and 435 on the other are not inconsistent but complementary.

The Covenant of the League of Nations states that the members of the League will take measures to secure and maintain freedom of communication and of transit and also equitable treatment of the commerce of its members. Germany on her admission to the League will share in the benefits of these provisions in common with other countries. However, during the period of transition following peace, regard must be had to the special conditions which are explained in the memorandum. The obligations imposed upon Germany, as there stated, are in the nature of measures of reparation and their maintenance throughout the period of five years, so far from being inconsistent with the principle of equitable treatment is designed to give effect to that principle.

The discretion given to the League of Nations by Articles 280 and 378 will be exercised in accordance with the same principle and in conformity with the spirit and text of the Covenant of the League.

(2) The Memorandum states on page 116 that “as regards the local debt of Alsace-Lorraine and the public institutions of Alsace-Lorraine which existed before August 1st, 1914, the Allied and Associated Powers have always understood that France should accept liability for them”.

Article 55 read with Article 255 of the Treaty relates to the public debt of “the Empire and of the German States” and no provision exempts France from the payment of the local debt of Alsace-Lorraine.

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There is, therefore, no divergence between the Memorandum and the Treaty.

(3) The Commission which has been provided for Upper Silesia and which, according to Article 45 of the Treaty is to be nominated by the Principal Allied and Associated Powers, is described as ‘Commission indépendant’—‘Separate Commission’—in order to make it clear that it refers to a Commission specially charged with the duty referred to in Article 45.

It does not appear that there is in this respect any divergence between the Treaty and the Memorandum.

(4) Similarly, the explanations which have been given on page 167 of the Memorandum relative to Memel do not indicate any contradiction between the Treaty and the Memorandum.

(5) With regard to the control of the destruction of the fortifications of Heligoland the Allied and Associated Powers intend, as explained in the Memorandum, page 17,8 to appoint a commission to exercise this control in conformity with the Treaty. This Commission will be authorised to decide what portion of the works protecting the coast from sea erosion is to be maintained and what portion is to be destroyed.

(6) The Allied and Associated Powers consider it necessary to point out that they have never stated that the German railways and mines in Shantung will not be regarded as the property of the German State, if proof is forthcoming from the German side that these are private property.

On the contrary the Allied and Associated Powers consider these railways and mines as public property. If, however, Germany establishes the fact that there are interests which German nationals may be found to possess therein, such private interests will be subjected to the application of the general principles laid down in the Treaty in matters of this kind.

(7) As stated on page 319 of the Memorandum the Allied and Associated Powers intend to communicate to the German Government within a month of the coming into force of the Treaty the list of persons, whom, under the second paragraph of Article 288, Germany must hand over to the Allied and Associated Powers.

(8) The Allied and Associated Powers as stated on page 3310 of the Memorandum do not intend to give the Reparation Commission power to require trade secrets and other confidential information to be divulged. As regards the exercise of executive authority on German territory and interference in the direction or control of the educational [Page 603] establishments of Germany, the Treaty contains no provisions giving any power to the Reparation Commission.

(9) On page 3411 and the following pages of the Memorandum the Allied and Associated Powers have not laid down any special procedure for fixing the reparation demanded from Germany. The Allied and Associated Powers have provided for the possibility that Germany may present at any time after the signature of the Treaty and within the next four months documents and proposals for examination by the said Powers, in order to expedite the work relating to reparation, and thereby greatly shorten the investigation and accelerate the decisions.

(10) As the [to] the facilities contemplated on page 3612 of the Memorandum for the importation of foodstuffs and raw materials into Germany mention was only made of them “subject to conditions and within limits which could not be indicated in advance and subject also to the necessity for having due regard to the special economic situation created for Allied and Associated countries by German aggression and the war.” Such cannot be regarded as a binding engagement which departs from the terms of the Treaty, but as the expression of the intention of the Allied and Associated Powers to facilitate, as far as it may be possible to them, the resumption of the economic life of Germany.

(11) The Memorandum stated that the Reparation Commission “would have power to grant to the Reichsbank whenever it sees fit the right to export gold when it is a question of guarantees that this bank had furnished and that it could not furnish by any other means.”

This statement is entirely in accord with the stipulation inserted in Article 248 of the Treaty, according to which “up to May 1st, 1921 the German Government shall not export or dispose of, and shall forbid the export or disposal of gold without the previous approval of the Allied and Associated powers acting through the Reparation Commission.”

(12) The Allied and Associated States, who on page 5313 of the Memorandum, declared their readiness to receive information and evidence which the German Government may furnish on the question of corrupt or fraudulent machinations by persons in the Allied and Associated States dealing with the liquidation of German property, will take proceedings against such persons in accordance with their own legislation and will secure the imposition of penalties in accordance in all respects with the provisions of their municipal laws.

Those of the explanations given above which, in the opinion of the Allied and Associated Powers, may be regarded as constituting a [Page 604] binding engagement, have been incorporated in the annexed Protocol, which the Allied and Associated Governments are prepared to annex to the Treaty.

[Annex]

Protocol

With a view to indicating precisely the conditions in which certain provisions of the Treaty of even date are to be carried out, it is agreed by the High Contracting Parties that:—

(1)
A commission will be appointed by the Principal Allied and Associated Powers to supervise the destruction of the fortifications of Heligoland in accordance with the Treaty. This Commission will be authorised to decide what portion of the works protecting the coast from sea erosion are to be maintained and what portion must be destroyed.
(2)
Sums reimbursed by Germany to German nationals to indemnify them, in respect of the interests which they may be found to possess in the railways and mines referred to in the second paragraph of Article 156 shall be credited to Germany against the sums due by way of reparation.
(3)
The list of persons to be handed over to the Allied and Associated Governments by Germany under the second paragraph of Article 228 shall be communicated to the German Government within a month from the coming into force of the Treaty.
(4)
The Reparation Commission referred to in Article 240 and paragraphs 2, 3 and 4 of Annex IV cannot acquire trade secrets or other confidential information to be divulged.
(5)
From the signature of the Treaty and within the ensuing four months, Germany will be entitled to submit for examination by the Allied and Associated Powers documents and proposals in order to expedite the work connected with reparation, and thus to shorten the investigation and to accelerate the decisions.
(6)
Proceedings will be taken against persons who have committed punishable offences in the liquidation of German property, and the Allied and Associated Powers will welcome any information or evidence which the German Government can furnish on this subject.

  1. Ante, p. 559.
  2. Appendix I to CF–76, p. 561.
  3. Post, p. 926.
  4. Part I, section II.
  5. Part X, section I.
  6. Parts II and III, section V.
  7. Parts II and III, section X.
  8. Parts II and III, section XIII.
  9. Part VII, section II.
  10. Part VIII, 9th paragraph.
  11. Part VIII, 11th and following paragraphs.
  12. Part VIII, antepenultimate paragraph.
  13. Part X, section VI, penultimate paragraph.