740.0011 European War 1939/28231

Memorandum of Conversation, by the Under Secretary of State (Welles)

The British Ambassador1 called to see me this morning at his request.

The Ambassador handed me a telegram, attached herewith, giving the views of the British Government with regard to the type of propaganda which should be undertaken by the United States and Great Britain in Italy. I told the Ambassador that I would be very glad to consider these suggestions.

S[umner] W[elles]
[Annex]

Text of Telegram Received From Foreign Office on November 30th, 1942

I am strongly of opinion that best method of facilitating an internal collapse in Italy is by stressing hopelessness of Italy’s position militarily and determination of United Nations to pursue the war with utmost vigour against Italy. In my view there is nothing to be gained at this stage by making any direct or indirect appeal to both sentiment or history or holding out any inducements to Italian people or armed forces to overthrow Fascist regime and abandon Germans. A policy of appeals and promises could only be really effective when there was a question of building up some dissident movement or leader which could challenge established government. At present there is no such leader or movement in Italy nor are there any potential leaders outside Italy of sufficient calibre. If and when there is any sign of a real anti-Fascist or anti-German movement developing in Italy, the question of making useful declarations as to our future Italian policy would of course have to be reconsidered.

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The line we are adopting in our political warfare is accordingly as follows: the Italian people should be told constantly and with every weapon open to propaganda that Mussolini and Fascist party have chosen to link Italy’s future with Nazism, that they have thus committed themselves to the same fate as Hitler, and that we are determined and assuredly shall defeat and punish Nazis and everyone associated with them. We appreciate that Italian people were forced into this struggle by Fascist régime. But if now Italian people decide to continue along Fascist road they will undoubtedly suffer all the woes and penalties which fall to the vanquished Fascist leaders. If they do not, they themselves will know what they have to do. It was Italian Government and not His Majesty’s Government which took step breaking a friendship between two peoples which had never been broken before. This struggle was therefore none of our seeking. But once gauntlet has been thrown down it is our habit to continue until our opponent is beaten, and in this case our opponent is and always will be Fascist Government and régime.

I much hope United States Government will agree that policy indicated above is appropriate in present circumstances and will issue instructions to their propaganda organisations accordingly.

  1. Lord Halifax.