760E.13/9–2950: Despatch

The Minister in Finland (Cabot) to the Secretary of State

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No. 231

Enclosed herewith is a memorandum of conversation which Mr. Ylitalo1 and I held on September 26th with Mr. Taavi Nikolai [Page 586] Vilhula, Minister of Agriculture, (Agrarian) and Mr. Heikki Albert Kannisto, Minister of Justice, (Progressive).

The Department will note that on both sides very blunt questions were asked regarding matters of major moment. Although on both sides the answers were discreet and vague, I think each side obtained a clearer conception of the other’s position.

The Department will particularly note the oft repeated story that we have an agreement with the Russians by which Finland is in the Soviet sphere of influence. I understand that my predecessor obtained a categorical denial of this from the Department, but the Legation has been unable to find the record of this. Should this story be as unfounded as I understand it is and should the Department be willing to have me discreetly so brand it, I would appreciate appropriate instructions.2 There is of course some danger that any encouragement given to the Finns, for example, by such a denial or by such statements as I made in my conversation under reference, may encourage the Finns to adopt too provocative an attitude towards Soviet Russia. I believe, however, that the present government is if anything somewhat too inclined to go the other way and that any comments which we may make to encourage a slightly stiffer position will be beneficial. The Department is, of course, aware that the two Ministers to whom I spoke are among the most friendly members of the present Cabinet.

Since returning from my leave3 I have held a series of talks with Finns prominent in national political life, one or two at a time, generally at lunch in the Legation. The conversation reported in this despatch is the most interesting of the talks I have had.

John M. Cabot
[Enclosure]

Memorandum of Conversation, by the Minister in Finland (Cabot)

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Participants: Mr. Taavi Nikolai Vilhula, Minister of Agriculture
Mr. Heikki Albert Kannisto, Minister of Justice
John M. Cabot
J. Raymond Ylitalo

Mr. Ylitalo arranged at my request a meeting with the above gentlemen at his apartment. He did the translating.

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After very brief preliminaries, Mr. Vilhula asked me what the United States would do in the event of a Russian attack on Finland. I said that I could not say, and would certainly not hazard a prediction of that point. There were, however, certain known facts which bore on it; for example, our action in Korea, and the friendship and respect in which Finland is held in the United States.

Mr. Vilhula then asked why we had agreed with Soviet Russia at Yalta that Finland should be included in the Soviet sphere of influence. He said that the Finnish Government had had to bear this constantly in mind and that this explained a number of instances in which it had seemed to yield to Soviet pressure. I said that I was pretty certain that we had never had an agreement or understanding of that nature with the Soviets. I had never heard of such an agreement and it was contrary to our basic policy. In 1944 we had refused to enter into an understanding of this type which the British and Soviets had worked out for the Balkans; and we had based our policy on the concept of unanimous action by the Big Five while respecting the sovereign equality of all nations. I said that we of course appreciated the delicacy of Finland’s position and realized that it required concessions from time to time to the Russians.

Mr. Vilhula then asked whether we in the United States considered the Kekkonen Government too conciliatory in its dealings with the Soviets, and referred again to the position of the United States in the event of a Russian attack on Finland. He then said that “in the absence of guarantees”, Finland heretofore had indeed yielded to the Soviets on various occasions. He congratulated me on American successes in Korea and said that he, as at least 80% of Finns, felt that by our action we had saved western culture.

I said that my answer must be divided into several parts. It was not for me to say whether the Kekkonen Government had been too conciliatory or not. Its position had been obviously difficult, and the conciliatory gestures it had made might well have been justified by considerations of broad policy. We had, however, been disappointed that the members of the Government had signed the so-called Stockholm Peace Appeal.

This precipitated voluble personal explanations from both Mr. Vilhula and Mr. Kannisto, obviously prompted by bad consciences. Mr. Vilhula explained that he had been buttonholed by a Communist deputy who already had a number of prominent non-Communist signatures and said he had not felt in a position to refuse. Mr. Kannisto explained that he had been called at 11:30 at night with the statement that the appeal would be published the following morning. Each Minister said that he would not have signed if he had realized the great propaganda use the Soviets were later to make of it. Vilhula said [Page 588] he did believe that their signature of it had won them their trade agreement with the Soviets. I apologetically said that it was of course none of my business why they had signed the appeal; they had to consider the matter in the light of Finland’s interests. I had referred to it only because it did affect Fenno-American relations and had not helped us in our struggle to maintain the freedom and independence of other nations.

With regard to what action we would take in the event of a Soviet attack on Finland, I felt I could perhaps say a bit more. I was convinced that we would bring such an attack before the UN. He had doubtless seen the proposals we had just introduced regarding General Assembly action in the event action in the Security Council was blocked by a veto. I could not, of course, say what action the UN might take, regarding an attack on Finland, nor what action we might take pursuant to any UN action or upon the failure of the UN to take any action. I could say that it was our general policy to do what we felt we wisely could to further Finland’s freedom and independence. During the war we had been the ally of the Soviets against Hitler, and we had naturally not wished to awaken their suspicions by particular friendliness to Finland. For a couple of years after the war we had tried to carry out President Roosevelt’s great hope of establishing good relations with Soviet Russia. We had never intended thereby to abandon Finland to the Russians. I did wish to make it clear, however, that so far as we were concerned no “guarantees” existed for Finland. I had referred to Korea only because it was another country which we had not guaranteed. They appreciated, I was sure, that there were special circumstances in that case and that there would be special circumstances which we could not foresee in any case involving Finland. Moreover, Finland was distant from us and close to Soviet Russia. The attitude of Finland’s neighbors might be important in determining our attitude.

I asked whether their question about our attitude in the event of a Russian attack was prompted by a specific reason to anticipate one, or merely by the general situation. They said very positively that only the latter had prompted it.

I then asked what Finland would do if the Soviet Union attacked the United States and demanded the right to occupy Finland under the friendship pact. Mr. Vilhula said smilingly that that reminded him of a story about General Sihvo, who was asked by a Russian General how fast Finland could mobilize. Sihvo’s reply was “In two days.” When the Russian expressed surprise, Sihvo explained that every Finn would join the Forestry Guard. Mr. Kannisto then said that should such a demand be made the Finns would undoubtedly play for time. He pointed out that the Friendship Pact contained no clause which would justify the Russians in making such a demand. I reminded him [Page 589] that Finland had had a pact with the Soviet Union in 1939, too, and asked what the Finns would do in the event that the Russians should attack them regardless of their treaty rights and diplomatic maneuvering. The Ministers looked rather unhappy at this question and in a general way said that Finnish action would depend upon the precise circumstances, for example, the wishes of the Finnish people that was why they had asked their first question.

The conversation lasted two hours and was most friendly at all times.

  1. J. Raymond Ylitalo, Attaché at the Legation in Finland.
  2. Airgram A–55, October 16, to Helsinki, not printed, replied that the Department of State had no knowledge of any secret agreement placing Finland within the Soviet orbit. The Department concurred with Minister Cabot’s view that the rumor in question, if referred to by responsible Finns, should be discreetly scotched by the Legation. (760E.13/9–2950)
  3. Minister Cabot returned to Helsinki on September 18 following a two-month visit to the United States for consultation and medical treatment.