Mr. Egan to Mr. Blaine.

No. 265.]

Sir: On the 11th instant, in consequence of the receipt of your telegram of the 8th instant, I had an interview with the minister of foreign relations, in which was discussed the question of safe-conduct for the remaining refugees in this legation. I now beg to hand (inclosure No. 1) a memorandum of what transpired at that interview. I also send a memorandum of an interview with the undersecretary of foreign relations on the 12th instant (inclosure No. 2), in which I informed him of my intention to accompany the refugees to Valparaiso on that night to place them on board the Yorktown; that the refugees from the Spanish legation would also come accompanied by the Spanish minister; and that we would also be accompanied by the Italian minister.

On the 13th instant I telegraphed you from Valparaiso to say that I had just placed in safety on board the U. S. S. Yorktown all of the refugees.

Upon my return to Santiago I was requested to call upon the minister on the 15th instant, which I did. He expressed annoyance at the fact that the Spanish and Italian ministers and I had accompanied the refugees to Valparaiso, and also at the fact that Capt. Evans, of the Yorktown, had given to the Spanish minister the customary salute of fifteen guns, saying that these circumstances gave to the going out of the refugees too much publicity. I replied that in the course of my previous interview, when I mentioned that I was going to accompany the refugees and that the Spanish and Italian ministers were coming, no objection was made. I also maintained that the journey to Valparaiso had been conducted in the most discreet manner and without any publicity, which was the fact, and that the salute of the Yorktown to the Spanish minister was intended wholly and entirely as a compliment to the representative of a friendly power.

I send herewith memorandum in full of what passed in said interview (inclosure No. 3).

On the 17th instant I sent you from Valparaiso a telegram giving particulars of the situation and on same day a second telegram transmitting quotation from an article in La Union, of Valparaiso, in which the refugees are described as “fastened onto the Yorktown like oysters to a rock.”

On yesterday, in an interview with the minister for foreign affairs, I referred to the remark made by him in the last interview in reference to the salute of fifteen guns given by the Yorktown to the Spanish minister, and, as requested by Capt. Evans, I stated that the captain considered himself accountable only to the Secretary of the Navy of the United States for any courtesies which he felt called upon to pay to the representative of a foreign power friendly to the United States, and that he could not accept any commentary or criticism from any other quarter in reference to his action in such matters.

I learn by telegraph from Valparaiso that the Yorktown sails to-day for Callao with six of the refugees from this legation on board, viz: Gen. José F. Gana, Señor Don Juan E. MacKenna, Don Ricardo Vicuña, Don Adolfo Ibañez, Don Guillermo MacKenna, and Don Acario Cotapos, and from the Spanish legation two refugees, Señor Don Bal-domero Friaz Callao, and Don G. Cerda y Qssa.

I have, etc.,

Patrick Egan.
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[Inclosure 1 in No. 265].

Memorandum of interview between Mr. Egan and Señor Pereira.

Inconsequence of the receipt of a telegram from Mr. Blaine, I waited to-day upon the minister of foreign relations to ascertain if the Government was willing to withdraw the parts of telegram of Minister Matta of December 11, which are personally offensive to the President and other officers of the United States and whether the Government would consent to give safe-conduct to the remaining refugees in my legation.

The minister, Don Luis Pereira, received me most cordially, and stated, with regard to the latter question, that, owing to the delicate relations between the various political parties represented in the Government, it would not be possible for’ him to give formal safe-conducts; but he said he could give me the strongest personal assurance that the refugees could go out of the country, whenever they pleased, without molestation or inconvenience.

I stated that some of the refugees, especially those who desired to go north, might be afraid to travel by ordinary passenger steamers without written safe-conducts, lest they might be interfered with by the local authorities at the ports at which the vessels should touch. He assured me he would take measures to avoid any annoyance or molestation of any kind, and that they could travel by whatever way they desired. I then agreed, for the sake of harmony and with a view to facilitating the arrangement of other questions pending, to waive the claim for written safe-conducts and to accept the proposition of the minister.

In reference to the first question, the minister said that, in the absence of the President, who was in Valparaiso, he could not give any answer, but promised to reply as early as possible.

[Inclosure 2 in No. 265.]

Memorandum of interview between Mr. Egan and the subsecretary of foreign relations.

To-day I called at the ministry of foreign relations at 3 o’clock p.m. I met the subsecretary, Señor Don A. Bascuñan M., and informed him that I had made all arrangements to proceed to Valparaiso to-night, by special railroad car, with the live refugees from my legation, to place them on board the U. S. S. Yorktown; that I would be accompanied by the Spanish minister, Count Bruneti, with two refugees from the Spanish legation; and that the Italian minister, Signor Castelli, had also offered to accompany us. I requested that the necessary steps should be taken for our protection at the railroad stations at Santiago and Valparaiso, as well as on the journey, which the subsecretary promised would be duly attended to.

[Inclosure 3 in No. 265.]

Memorandum of interview between Mr. Egan and Señor Pereira.

I called to-day upon the minister for foreign affairs, when he expressed considerable annoyance at the fact that the refugees from the United States and Spanish legations had been accompanied on the journey to Valparaiso and on board the Yorktown by the Spanish and Italian ministers and by me, and complained that the matter had been conducted with too much publicity, and instanced as proof of this the fact that Capt. Evans, of the Yorktown, had given to the Spanish minister the customary salute of fifteen guns. This latter, the minister said, had been interpreted by many people more as a jubilation at the arrival of the refugees on board than as a compliment to the Spanish minister. I replied that in our previous interviews no objection whatever was made to the fact, intimated by me, that the Spanish and Italian ministers and I were about to accompany the refugees, and that, inasmuch as the refugees in my legation were under the protection of the flag of the United States, I felt bound, as a matter of duty, to accompany them until I had placed them in safety on board [Page 306] the Yorktown. I further assured the minister that the journey had been conducted with the very utmost discretion, so much so that only a very few members of the immediate families of the refugees knew anything about the matter until we had arrived aboard the Yorktown, when, of course, it was no longer possible to keep it secret; and with regard to the salute to the Spanish minister, I assured the minister of foreign relations that Capt. Evans had no other intention than to pay the customary honor to the representative of a friendly power.

The minister further added that he had given no official permission, and, in fact, no permission, to the refugees to go out; but had only acted with vista gorda, or with closed eyes, and that if the refugees chose to go north or south by ordinary passenger steamers they must do so at the risk of being taken prisoners by the local authorities at any of the Chilean ports at which the vessels might touch. I expressed regret that I had consented to waive my request for a written safe-conduct, and stated that I had accepted the other arrangement solely in order to avoid further complications. I further said that three of the refugees had now secured their passage for Montevideo with their families, and two others, with their families, for Callao, all by the English passenger steamers, and that if they should be captured on passage it would be a matter of very serious import to my Government. The minister then requested me to confer with Capt. Evans, of the Yorktown, and endeavor, if possible, to avoid the threatened difficulties. I promised to go to Valparaiso to-night for that purpose, as the refugees have all made arrangements to start on their voyage to-morrow.

In relation to the withdrawal of the offensive parts of the telegram of Minister for Foreign Affairs Matta, of the 11th of December, Señor Pereira stated to me that Don Pedro Montt, Chilean minister in Washington, had had considerable negotiation on this question with Mr. Blaine, and that they were practically agreed upon the basis of withdrawal; in fact, that the basis had been suggested by Mr. Blaine himself. In compliance with this understanding, he made to me the following proposition: “In view of the indications of Mr. Blaine, and of the views expressed by his predecessors in the office of Secretary of State, Mr. Buchanan and Mr. Webster, that a message of a President of the United States to Congress is purely a document of internal import and could not be permitted to be made the basis of diplomatic representations or controversy by the representatives of any foreign power, the Chilean Government has no inconvenience in withdrawing those parts of the telegram of the minister for foreign affairs, addressed to the Chilean minister in Washington, which may be considered disagreeable to the Government of the United States.” The minister very strongly pressed upon me the acceptance of the withdrawal of the telegram in the foregoing terms, saying that their representative in Washington assured them that these terms were entirely acceptable to Mr. Blaine and to the Government of the United States.

I replied that I thought there must be some mistake on the part of the Chilean legation in Washington, as I felt sure my Government, while most anxious to bring this question to a friendly solution, would require, in addition to the foregoing, a suitable expression of regret for those parts of the telegram which it considers offensive to the President and other officers of the United States. The minister assured me, in reply to this, that Señor Montt had already received instructions to express regret for all matters of a disagreeable nature that had occurred between the two Governments, which, he assured me, was considered sufficient by Mr. Blaine; and, in view of this, he again pressed me to accept the before-mentioned proposition. I stated in reply that I could only undertake, under all the circumstances, to submit the proposition by telegraph to my Government and await its further instructions, which he requested me to do.