Mr. Terrell to Mr. Gresham.

[Extract.]
No. 40.]

Sir: On receiving information from Marsovan that pledges were required of the missionaries that the Marsovan school property would not be used for church or school purposes before conveyances of title would be permitted, I at once wrote to the minister of foreign affairs to ascertain if this was required under his direction. A copy of my note is inclosed. No prompt answer being received I went in person to the Porte and saw both the grand vizier and the minister of foreign affairs. The situation seemed to demand some expression of the purposes of the Government. The detailed statement of the interviews at the Porte will be found in inclosures.

The Government here desires, as you will see, that you will consent that the issuance of the iradé and firman for the Marsovan school may be delayed for “two or three months,” on account of the “unsettled condition of affairs among the Armenians” in Asia Minor, and (its belief) that the extraordinary privileges secured under an iradé, if granted now, would encourage the malcontents. This plea is evidently based on the belief that the college has been a nursery for secret revolutionary schemes, an opinion strengthened by the number of professors and students of that school who have been convicted.

To the request for delay I replied that I would submit it for the [Page 670] consideration of my Government, and unless I informed him to the contrary it would be acceded to.

Unless instructed to the contrary I will, on the 19th of October, formally but respectfully, request the prompt fulfillment of the terms on which the Marsovan trouble was settled. The reasons given for asking time should appeal strongly (I thought) to a friendly power, especially as the right to demand a performance of the promise to my predecessor was conceded as being matter of right under the terms of the settlement.

I have preferred to embody in an inclosure the conversations at the Porte, both on account of their importance and to avoid unnecessary detail in this dispatch.

I have, etc.,

A. W. Terrell,
[Inclosure 1 in No. 40.]

Mr. Terrell to Said Pasha.

Your Excellency: I desire to call the attention of your excellency to the fact that vexatious conditions are imposed by the vali of Marsovan on the American who, with his own money, has paid for the land on which formerly stood the house which was burned at Marsovan. He is required to give a guaranty that this property will not be used for church or school purposes. No permit for the rebuilding of the burned house has ever been received, and I am now informed that the title to the property (paid for long ago) can not be acquired by the Americans unless they promise not to rebuild the burned annex of the school. In other words, that they must not do just what you promised to allow them to do by issuing a permit to that effect. Permit me to ask your excellency whether the conditions exacted by the vali of Marsovan are imposed with your knowledge or under your instructions? My predecessor informed my Government in a dispatch that your excellency had given positive assurances that the demands which he was instructed by the secretary of state to present would “be anticipated by the Sublime Porte by a payment to this legation of 500 Turkish pounds and an iradé for the school.” Again, on the 27th April, my Government was informed by my predecessor that the sum of 500 Turkish pounds had been paid, and further, that an iradé for the school would be given. No such pledge as the one claimed from the Americans was asked from the British subject McLachlan, who bought property at Smyrna to establish schools; nor was it asked from another Englishman who bought property there for the same purpose. His Imperial Majesty the Sultan was recently complimented at Chicago as the patron of learning and progress. Whatever the policy of your Government maybe, I indulge the hope that American citizens will enjoy the same privileges that are granted to the subjects of any other power.

I take this occasion, etc.,

A. W. Terrell.
[Inclosure 2 in No. 40.]

Memorandum of interview with the grand vizier of Turkey.

[Extract.]

On Saturday, August 19, I called on the grand vizier, and, on account of the importance of the matter in hand, took with me my secretary of legation, who speaks French well. I informed his highness that his officials at Marsovan would not permit a conveyance of the land on which the burned building stood, unless a pledge was given that it would not be used for school or church purposes; that I had patiently waited until now for the iradé for the entire Marsovan college, and had come to call his attention to it.

He began, in response, an explanation of the terms of the agreement between the United States and Turkey, evidently intended to impress me with the idea that the [Page 671] iradé was merely promised, but not as part of a settlement. To this I answered promptly: “Your Highness, governments contract only through official agencies. My Government, represented by my predecessor, and your Government, represented by his excellency Said Pasha, minister of foreign affairs, settled the question of indemnity for burning an American schoolhouse, which my predecessor claimed had been burned under direction of one of your officers, who had been a robber. My predecessor informed my Government of the terms of that settlement, which were that £500, Turkish money, should be paid by Turkey, and an iradé for Marsovan college should issue. The money has been paid, but the permit to rebuild, which was also agreed to, has not issued, and we have not heard your intentions regarding the iradé. When can I expect it?”

He answered, “It will be issued.” I asked him “When?” adding, that he must admit that my Government had been patient, and now unless the desired paper issued within a week I would telegraph home for instructions. He quickly replied:

“I hope your excellency will not do that, for I will telegraph to our Minister Mavroyeni Bey, at Washington, to solicit from your Government a delay of two or three months. Armenian conspiracies are still threatening Turkey; live conspirators were recently arrested at Marsovan, and to issue an Iradé for the Marsovan school now would, in the opinion of the Sultan, have the effect to encourage a seditious spirit among the people.”

With apparent reluctance I answered, “Your highness gives a reason for delay that I had not expected. The missionary teacher is not a revolutionist, but if you think that delay is necessary for quiet among the Armenians, I will wait two months, unless instructed by my Government to ask prompt compliance with the terms of the settlement.”

I then informed him that I had addressed a note to Said Pasha regarding the onerous conditions exacted in a conveyance of the land, and inquired if his attention had been called to it. For an answer he referred me to Said Pasha.

I then said: “I avail myself of this occasion to express my gratification at the promptness with which assurances are given here at the Porte for the redress of grievances, but it is evident that American teachers in the interior are subjected to more annoyances from subordinate officers than ever before.” To this he answered, “Perhaps that is so, but the Government is having more trouble than usual.”

I said to him, “your highness, it can not be possible that missionary teachers trouble you? They are not the men to excite revolutions. They come to Turkey with their wives and little children and settle in wild, remote villages; no arms or soldiers to guard them; they go about teaching, singing, and praying, and those who report against them lie to you. The American missionary is the only Christian now annoyed by your officers. The Gregorian Armenians, the Catholic Greeks, the Catholic Armenians, the Greek Church, the Roman Catholics, and the Jews, all have their spiritual chiefs here at your capital. Why are they able to preach and teach unmolested, while the American missionary alone is impeded in his employment?

Your highness, these American teachers, with their wives and children, are scattered over Asia Minor, and are there protected by treaty stipulations. You must see the injustice of permitting them to be annoyed on account of mere suspicion. I must insist that they be permitted to enjoy in security all the privileges that have ever been accorded them. Complaints have been made of privileges denied. I wish to have every one redressed.”

To this he answered, “Well, your excellency, present them and I will do all I can to satisfy you.”

Remembering Mr. Thompson’s prediction that serious troubles were in store for our citizens in Asia Minor on account of the Armenians, I said, “I know that your Armenians go to my country to be naturalized, because we have no treaty which suspends their relation to our country as its citizens on their return here, as would be the case under an act of Parliament, if they were naturalized in England. I have no authority to speak, but can say that I would communicate to my Government any desire you may have for new treaty stipulations on the subject.” To this he answered that he would consider it in cabinet council and inform me. He added. “When the Armenians who are naturalized in the United States return here after this, they will not be permitted to remain in the country.” To this I made no response, since Turkey has refused since 1869 to recognize the right of its subjects to expatriate themselves, except after permission given, and much future difficulty will be avoided if the naturalized Armenian remains away from here. In this connection I requested a suspension of his announced policy in favor of a young Armenian who was at the legation on that day, and who wished to rejoin his wife, some 700 miles in the interior. On my assuring him that I believed he was a good man who had avoided their revolutionary societies in New York, he consented and telegraphed the permit.

The interview, while serious, terminated with assurances of a desire to do all he could to remedy the grievances complained of by American teachers.

A. W. Terrell.
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[Inclosure 3 in No: 40.]

Memorandum of interview with Said Pasha.

After the interview with the grand vizier had terminated, I called at the foreign office and asked Said Pasha if he had received my note informing him that onerous pledges were exacted of the Americans before they were permitted to receive title to the Marsovan school property, for which they had paid. He answered, “Yes; and I am having it translated; I will answer it soon.” It was sent in English and French, and his translation must be intended for the Sultan, who communicates only in the Turkish language. I informed him that I had discussed the matter of the iradé with the grand vizier and stated the result. I then added pleasantly, “When your Sultan issues his iradé for Marsovan college the owners can make little use of it if you make them pledge themselves not to teach or preach in it.” He answered, “I will consider what answer will be made to your request that the owners shall be relieved from making a pledge not to teach on the property.” I answered, “I hope your excellency will consider your answer carefully, for by it will be determined whether your contract with my Government “made with my predecessor is to be observed.” I then stated substantially to him what I had said in that regard to the grand vizier. His answer has not been received, but I feel confident it will be favorable. I then informed him that I would soon call his attention to all the various complaints that had reached me of wrong treatment to which American missionaries were subjected, and would ask that instructions issue that may prevent them in future. He answered, “I will gladly help to remedy them, but does not your excellency desire to see my list of complaints against the missionaries!” “Certainly,” I answered, “and if they have done wrong, they must reform.” This was pleasantry, but former conversations revealed the fact that he believed the Armenian missionaries engaged in teaching in American schools were dangerous to his Government.

The interview terminated pleasantly.

A. W. Terrell.