740.0011 Mutual Guarantee (Locarno)/598

The Ambassador in Belgium (Morris) to the Secretary of State

No. 776

Sir: I have the honor to transmit herewith a memorandum of an interesting conversation which Commander John A. Gade, Naval Attaché of the Embassy, and I had with Mr. Paul van Zeeland, Belgian Prime Minister and Minister for Foreign Affairs and Foreign Commerce, during the course of a luncheon of the Directors of the C. R. B. (Committee for Relief in Belgium) Educational Foundation, on March 30, 1936.…

Respectfully yours,

Dave H. Morris
[Enclosure]

Memorandum by the Naval Attaché in Belgium (Gade)

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Mr. van Zeeland stated his belief that Parliamentary Government, not only in France, but elsewhere, was proving so ineffectual in acting rapidly in a national crisis that constitutional changes would become imperative were Governments successfully to function.

One of the first and most difficult questions that would arise if the present crisis is past and a future international working agreement reached will unquestionably be the question of Germany’s former colonies. Both the military party and politicians had all, with the exception of Goebbels and Goering, advised against the re-occupation of the Rhineland. Hitler felt however this must be done so as to have a “fait accompli” prior to the elections. While Schacht had many enemies, his brilliant wit coupled with the real confidence Hitler has in him, enabled him to keep his position. Schacht was not above seeing himself in Hitler’s place. Germany itself looks upon Hitler as an apostle and his speeches intoxicate all classes, though their theme be always one and the same, played in various tones. Had Hitler been wise he would now have merely issued a statement that [Page 272] France had broken the Treaty of Locarno and then awaited his time, say a year, to re-occupy the Rhineland. He would then have had the sympathy and understanding of most of Europe.

Hitler selected Mr. von Ribbentrop very wisely. He entirely understands the English and was largely responsible for the British-German Naval Agreement. He was naturally assisted by the first German Foreign Office experts. Older German statesmen had proved themselves incapable.

The Prime Minister stated that he was aware of the fact that Germany had already exceeded her building limits according to her Naval agreement with England, particularly in the quantities for small fast craft built for her so-called “mosquito fleet”.

In England, Mr. van Zeeland was informed by leading English politicians that three-fourths of the sympathy was with Germany rather than with France. Only a few English like Winston Churchill27 and similar die-hards still stood up for backing the French contentions through thick and thin.

In regard to the Staff conversations, Mr. van Zeeland stated that the British Military Attaché had for two days been in touch with the Chief of General Staff in Brussels, Major General van den Bergen, and that conversations were being held today either in London or Paris between the Belgian Military Attaché and the British Staff on one hand and on the other, between the French and British Staff Officers. While these could scarcely, however, be called Staff conversations, they were arranging certain technical details and the procedure to be followed. For Belgium this was a very preferable course to Staff Officers of the three countries jointly consulting. There is no question from what Mr. van Zeeland said that his sympathies and points of view were decidedly sympathetic to the British ones rather than to the French, and that he will support the former in future negotiations.

Owing to the present situation, elections would shortly have to be held in Belgium. The supporters of Degrelle (Rex)28 would some of them be elected and in drawing a few members from the Catholic and Socialist ranks would still further confuse the balance of power or coalition government. Decision as to the exact date of the elections lay entirely in the King’s hands. The Governments which today had elections behind them, similarly to England and Germany, were unquestionably in a stronger position than France and Belgium who still had them ahead of them.

John A. Gade
  1. Member of Parliament and Conservative Party leader.
  2. Léon Degrelle, leader of the Rexist Party.