841.30/90

The Counselor of Embassy in Great Britain (Atherton) to the Secretary of State

[Extract]
No. 1753

Sir: I have the honor to transmit herewith copies in quintuplicate of the official Hansard text of the debate occurring in the House of Commons on March 1191 when Mr. Alexander, First Lord of the Admiralty, introduced the 1931 Navy Estimates, copies of which were transmitted with the Embassy’s despatch No. 1729 of March 6, 1931.92 In introducing these Estimates, Mr. Alexander made important references to the course of the Anglo-Italian-French naval conversations and to the Government White Paper issued on March 11 giving the bases of agreement reached.93 Five copies of this Government publication are attached hereto.

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Ray Atherton
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[Enclosure]

Bases of Agreement

(March 1, 1931)

A.—Vessels whose Tonnage is Regulated by the Treaty of Washington

I.—Capital Ships.

(a)
Before the 31st December, 1936, France and Italy may respectively complete two capital ships, the displacement of each of which will not exceed 23,333 tons and the gun calibre of which will not exceed 12 inches.
(b)
On completion of each of these ships, France will scrap one ship of the Diderot class; similarly, Italy will scrap approximately 16,820 tons of first-class over-age cruisers (making a total of 33,640 tons).
(c)
Without prejudice to a general revision of the capital-ship tonnages established by the Treaty of Washington, and in order to facilitate the conclusion of the present arrangement, the total tonnage in this category accorded to France and Italy respectively under the treaty shall be raised from 175,000 tons to 181,000 tons.

II.—Aircraft Carriers.

Before the 31st December, 1936, France and Italy may complete respectively 34,000 tons of aircraft carriers.

Note to I and II.—The French and Italian Governments will give one another as long notice as possible of their intention to seek parliamentary authority for the construction of any ships in either of these two categories.

The above provisions will be included in an exchange of letters between the Ministers of Marine of France and Italy, except the provision contained in paragraph I (c) which will form the subject of a special protocol or declaration.

B.—Vessels whose Tonnage is Regulated by the Treaty of London

France and Italy will conform to the following rules in preparing their programmes for construction to be completed before the 31st December, 1936:—

(a) Cruisers with Guns of more than 6.1-inch (155 m/m) Calibre.

No further construction after completion of the 1930 programme.

(b) Cruisers with Guns of 6.1-inch (155 m/m) Calibre or less and Destroyers.

The tonnage of new construction to be completed shall not exceed the tonnage which is replaceable in this category before the 31st December, [Page 381] 1936. Vessels already over-age and vessels becoming overage during the period of the treaty shall be scrapped on being replaced,* except in cases where either France or Italy prefers to scrap instead an equivalent tonnage belonging to the category of cruisers with guns of more than 6.1 inch (155 m/m) calibre.*

It is hereby declared that for the purpose of this arrangement the Members of the British Commonwealth of Nations, France and Italy do not intend to undertake the replacement before the 31st December, 1936, of any destroyer which will be under sixteen years of age on that date. At the same time it is understood that if the present agreement is brought to an end as a result of the deliberations of the General Disarmament Conference of 1932, the right of replacement under the replacement rules of the London Naval Treaty remains intact.

(c) Submarines.

No further construction other than for completion of the 1930 programme and for the replacement of tonnage becoming over-age after the 31st December, 1931. Over-age vessels shall be scrapped, except where scrapping would result in the total submarine tonnage figure falling below the submarine figure mentioned in article 16 of the Treaty of London.

Subject to a general revision of the naval question in the course of the Disarmament Conference of 1932, the tonnage of French submarines in commission will not exceed, up to the 31st December, 1936, the figure of 81,989 tons, representing at the present moment the under-age tonnage of vessels built or building. The Members of the British Commonwealth of Nations maintain that this figure of 81,989 tons is too high in relation to their destroyer figure of 150,000 tons under the London Naval Treaty, but they agree to notify the other signatories of Part III of the Treaty of London that they will not have recourse to article 21 of the London Treaty pending the general revision of the naval question mentioned above. Should it not be possible at the 1932 conference to arrive at a satisfactory equilibrium between French submarine tonnage and British Commonwealth destroyer tonnage, the Members of the British Commonwealth of Nations will retain their right to make such increase as they may judge necessary in their destroyer figure of 150,000 tons.

C.—General Provisions

(a)
France and Italy furthermore declare (1) that they will accept all the provisions of Part III of the London Naval Treaty in so far [Page 382] as it applies to the Members of the British Commonwealth of Nations, the United States of America and Japan; (2) that they will accept, in so far as they are concerned, those provisions which are of general application and which do not conflict with the provisions of the present arrangement.
(b)
At the time of the signature of this arrangement a declaration in the following sense would be signed either by the Members of the British Commonwealth of Nations, France and Italy, or else by all the parties to the London Treaty:—

It is understood that the present arrangement establishes no permanent ratio in any category of ship as between the Members of the British Commonwealth of Nations, France and Italy. In particular, no precedent is being created for the final solution of the question whether, and if so in what manner, tonnage remaining over-age on the 31st December, 1936, may ultimately be replaced.

  1. Not reprinted.
  2. Not printed.
  3. The annex entitled “Bases of Agreement” is the only portion of this document printed here.
  4. It is suggested that, for the sake of clarity, this sentence should be re-drafted as follows after the words “on being replaced”:—

    “Nevertheless, subject to the engagements mentioned in paragraph I (b), France and Italy may scrap, instead of over-age light surface vessels, a tonnage of cruisers with guns of more than 6.1-inch (155 m/m), equivalent to the total of the new units completed.” [Footnote in the original.]

  5. It is suggested that, for the sake of clarity, this sentence should be re-drafted as follows after the words “on being replaced”:—

    “Nevertheless, subject to the engagements mentioned in paragraph I (b), France and Italy may scrap, instead of over-age light surface vessels, a tonnage of cruisers with guns of more than 6.1-inch (155 m/m), equivalent to the total of the new units completed.” [Footnote in the original.]